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Post by rayjr on Jan 23, 2016 17:26:00 GMT -5
Tim, From what state are these Congressmen? Perhaps Tennessee? Thanks, Ray
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Post by timniesen on Jan 23, 2016 22:58:04 GMT -5
brown was from mississippi and venerable was from north carolina.
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Post by timniesen on Jan 24, 2016 18:21:17 GMT -5
the history of the word filibuster or fillibuster and it various dead meanings is somewhat akin to the evolution of ape to man. there are numerous dead ends. like the densovians and the red cave people. see the wikapedia site on the former.
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Post by timniesen on Jan 28, 2016 18:06:22 GMT -5
In particular the rise from obscurity of Franklin Pierce into the Democratic nomination in 1852 and his firm support of Manifest Destiny during the campaign caused the term filibuster to greatly intensify in word usage in the period from the Spring of 1852 to the Spring of 1853. The New York Tribune, a very widely read Whig paper, attacked the "Whig filibusters" who seceded from the Whig party after the nomination of the widely unpopular Gen. Winfield Scott at Whig convention that year. This group of mainly Southern border state Whigs were very uneasy over the known friendship of Gen. Scott with antislavery Whigs Seward and Weed of New York State. After the victory of Pierce by a landslide in 1852, the Young American Democrats like Douglas and Cass were anticipating the rapid expansion of Manifest Destiny. The Democratic Young America Senatorial and Congressional supporters of American expansion gave long and tedious speeches for weeks in January of 1853. Of course, President Pierce picked "Big Bill" Marcy to be Secretary of State and all was lost for Manifest Destiny. Tim
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Post by stuart on Feb 4, 2016 17:37:04 GMT -5
The phrase "Buffalo Hunt" was used from the early 1840 into the 1850s to describe filibuster expeditions. This phrase originated during one of the frequent Texan filibuster expeditions into New Mexico when a trader meet one of these numerous expeditions on the way there. He asked one of the Texan filibusters what they were doing. One of the filibusters answered, "We are on a "buffalo hunt." The best place to see this relatively rare Americanism is the published Polk diary, when Polk refers to the American mercenary expedition into the Yucatan, which had declared its independence of Mexico, and its ruling white elite was attempting to suppress an Indian revolt in the wake of the Mexican-American War. The term Buffalo Hunt was also used in the late 1840s and early 1850s to describe a political seceder from a party. This was caused by the revolutionary political coalition forming the Free Soil Convention of 1848. Although it was a relatively rare word meaning, and limited to the early 1850s, filibuster also picked up this meaning because of its association with the filibuster meaning of Buffalo Hunt. If A equal B and B equal C, then A equal C. Tim The term actually has a much earlier origin in a song about the battle of New Orleans in 1815 - called The Hunters of Kentucky. In 1837 there was a filibustering attempt by some Americans to seize Upper Canada and bring it into the Union - in conscious imitation of the Texians - and the organisation, taking their name from the song, were known as the Hunters. See Donald Graves' book The Battle of the Windmill
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Post by timniesen on Feb 23, 2016 18:58:37 GMT -5
Stuart, I was unaware of this usage of hunters in the context of Kentucky and the battle of New Orleans. Thanks for the insight. Was there not a second American of Canada in 1869? The largely Irish Exile invasion force was defeated by the largely Black militia units of Canada, formed from the former fugitive slaves who had went there before the Civil War. Some of them had come South to fight in the American Civil War USCT regiments. Tim
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Post by timniesen on Feb 24, 2016 12:04:49 GMT -5
1866 rather than 1869 was the year of the last American invasion of Canada.
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Post by timniesen on Feb 25, 2016 11:22:33 GMT -5
The link between the hunters of Kentucky and term Buffalo Hunt may not be firm. My examples of this term include no examples of filibusters being called buffalo hunters. Only the expeditions themselves are referred to as a buffalo hunt. Of course my research is limited only to written words and speech may have expanded the usage of the phrase. Tim
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Post by stuart on Mar 8, 2016 2:30:27 GMT -5
Checking out Graves' book is pretty essential as he traces out the history of the Hunter movement, but two points are worth noting at this stage. The song, "The Hunters of Kentucky" was apparently used in Andy Jackson's campaign of 1828, and the movement, effectively founded in 1838, was based in Buffalo, New York, which I'd say is the most likely link.
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Post by timniesen on Mar 9, 2016 9:50:04 GMT -5
There may be merit to your theory. The presence of the secondary meaning of a political group of seccesionists from a party (for both buffalo hunt and filibuster) also adds support for your argument. Unlike the omnipresent term filibuster, buffalo hunt is a relatively rare term. During some years in the middle of the 1850s, the usage of the word filibuster reached nearly a thousand per year in the New York Daily Tribune. On the other hand, there are not more than twenty examples of the term buffalo hunt in the period from 1845 to about 1855. For instance, I never found this term used in reference to the second Walker expedition. Tim
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Post by timniesen on Jul 11, 2016 20:13:12 GMT -5
A minor note about filibuster. There arose a pair of connected but different meanings in the 1880s and 1890 connected with the shipboard smuggling of arms and ammunition into Cuba. First the vessel itself is referred to as a filibuster. Second the sailors of those fast steamers were referred to as filibusters. I recently found an obituary of a famous one of these men in 1917. The term filibuster in this context is used. The word becomes a term in reference to gun running expeditions in all regions. Tim
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Post by timniesen on Jul 11, 2016 20:13:33 GMT -5
A minor note about filibuster. There arose a pair of connected but different meanings in the 1880s and 1890s noconnected with the shipboard smuggling of arms and ammunition into Cuba. First the vessel itself is referred to as a filibuster. Second the sailors of those fast steamers were referred to as filibusters. I recently found an obituary of a famous one of these men in 1917. The term filibuster in this context is used. Tim
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