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Post by edward on Sept 27, 2014 15:10:57 GMT -5
Good find, Edward. (In the third edition, it is page 82.). The Main Plaza artist is perhaps Gentlz, Watermellon Race? It was indeed Corrida de la Sandia by Theodore Gentilz. I just checked his drawing against my model a week or so ago, and his placement of the watch tower is precisely where it was, although he brings it in to about 1/4 the distance so it "will read" (in movie terms) and alters the ridge line from north/south to northeast/southwest, a view as if he were near Powder House Hill and looking up the valley to the N.E. Surprisingly, his painting is more accurate than the scientifically drawn sketch, at least in this regard. He has the Watch Tower in the painting much more diminished in size, but moves it north several hundred yards along the ridge to fit his composition. Agh! Artists! Theodore Gentilz apparently did at least two paintings of 'Corrida de la Sandia'. He did one in 1848 and it agrees more with the sketch and one C1890 where the PH is moved north.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Sept 28, 2014 2:06:28 GMT -5
Really? I would really like to see the 1848 one. Have you? Where? I know much of his early work was lost in a fire in Castroville after he moved there.
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Post by edward on Sept 28, 2014 11:41:09 GMT -5
This is from the Texas Almanac 2014-2015 (Pub. Texas State Historical Association). Notice the family at the corner is also moved and other differences.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Sept 28, 2014 17:10:03 GMT -5
Wow! No! I've never seen this one. It IS much closer to his drawing. It is not in Dorothy Kendall's book. She just includes the drawing and the painting we've seen before -- listed as 1848, not c.1890's. She makes no mention of another one. Any information in the Almanac about its location or history? Perhaps it was a recent discovery.
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Post by edward on Sept 28, 2014 23:49:01 GMT -5
Wow! No! I've never seen this one. It IS much closer to his drawing. It is not in Dorothy Kendall's book. She just includes the drawing and the painting we've seen before -- listed as 1848, not c.1890's. She makes no mention of another one. Any information in the Almanac about its location or history? Perhaps it was a recent discovery. It just gives a brief Bio. (Almanac can be downloaded for free if you give them your email). This is the photo in 'Painting Texas History to 1900'.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Sept 29, 2014 0:12:10 GMT -5
I know Gentilz often painted the same painting again (or several times) from his sketches. I just never saw this variation on the theme. There must be three or more different Alamo church paintings from the same angle but with varying degrees of artistic detail. I wonder if perhaps he would redo a painting to show his classes at St. Mary's how it was done.
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Post by jrboddie on Oct 22, 2016 11:30:56 GMT -5
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Post by Rich Curilla on Oct 23, 2016 16:56:26 GMT -5
Thanks, Jim. I appreciate your bringing this to our attention.
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Post by VictoriaR85 on Nov 29, 2016 4:16:51 GMT -5
I found a video of the presentation. It's not the best since the person filming is pacing and we don't get the best look at the photos. But you can see the excavation process, which includes images of the foundation of the structure walls. Very interesting. I do wonder why they haven't released the photos yet and if the excavation sites are still unearthed. Matthew Elverson Witte Museum Presentation
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