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Post by texast on Dec 2, 2008 20:58:16 GMT -5
First Very good job!!! It helps to see the perspective with the whole compound still showing some of what is there today as we know it such as the street names and the roped off grass area in front of the chapel etc. I know you still need some clean up as you stated but, I think I would leave such things as those there for others to see the relationships and to see how much has been buried through time.
Most everything looks like we think it should but, the areas of the Convento yard and the Cattle pen look like they may be cut short. I thought they both went back a bit further but that might just be my misconception also.
Looking forward to your finished work of course ... now if only M$ would make it available for other OS'es.
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Post by marklemon on Dec 2, 2008 21:25:41 GMT -5
jrboddie, You are doing important work here..very well done. Mark
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Post by Jim Boylston on Dec 2, 2008 21:55:42 GMT -5
That is just superb, jr. Great work. Jim
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Post by Herb on Dec 3, 2008 12:13:09 GMT -5
That is absolutely superb, I've been looking for something of quality like this for years.
I don't know if you're willing, but if possible, some poster boards of these shots might be valuable for the Remember- Reclaim- Restore effort in March in Bexar. Just an idea. Bill, Glen???
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Post by Allen Wiener on Dec 3, 2008 18:18:23 GMT -5
This really is terrific! What a great concept. Congratulations. Ditto everything Herb said; I've always wanted to see this visually and it would be a GREAT help next March in Bexar. Nothing says it like a picture -- and this is it!
AW
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Post by texast on Dec 4, 2008 3:12:18 GMT -5
I definitely agree! You are doing important work here! As wolfpack suggested if you can and are willing the excellent idea of getting some poster boards or some decent size prints of this project for the Remember-Reclaim-Restore effort in March in Bexar, and if some other work done by others here could set up in a good location (that would have to be worked out with the powers that be of course) would be of great impact for the Media and all others who will be there for any fund raising and awareness efforts. I will even stick my neck out here and suggest if it can be done with permission of if he isn't there to set up some sort of loop video with Gary Foreman's vision for greater affect. I think if people see these things in the right venue and presentation it might just turn not only San Antonio on it's head but also the state. Wish I could be there to help and also just meet a few from this great group who will be able to be there.
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Post by jrboddie on Dec 4, 2008 10:48:04 GMT -5
Thank you all for the kind comments.
I would be pleased to contribute any way I can to the effort.
The problem that I am working on now is to improve the texture of the walls that consist of plaster covered adobe brick.
I believe the Convento may have had plaster over the rock walls as well but for now, I am still using the rock texture that I made from a photo of the current face of the Alamo church.
The scene also looks 'too neat' and sterile but there may not be much I can do about that for the Virtual Earth model due to increases in file sizes.
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Post by elcolorado on Dec 6, 2008 11:17:10 GMT -5
Beautiful images...very telling. It truly breaks my heart to see "what was" superimposed over "what is." I agree with Herb and think our movement would benefit by utilizing these pictures. Let's see what we can do!
Glenn
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Post by majorevans08 on Dec 10, 2008 19:30:03 GMT -5
Great artwork--tourists should be able to see something like this at the Alamo--maybe an interactive version for kids (and adults)?
What if the National Park Service ran the Alamo--surely some uniformed guards on duty, possibly from several eras.
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Post by gtj222 on Dec 23, 2008 10:09:52 GMT -5
Mannnnn!!!!! That is really great!!
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Post by Paul Sylvain on Dec 24, 2008 10:07:39 GMT -5
It took me a bit to figure out how to move around the 3-D thing, but, man, this is one awesome presentation. I am in awe. Nice work. In fact, your effort and contribution to this site definitely deserves a little "karma".
Paul
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Post by Wade Dillon on Dec 24, 2008 10:13:18 GMT -5
I certainly agree that these images would be a very important tool in spreading the message for the Alamo Plaza project. Again, great work jrboddie!
~Wade
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Post by jrboddie on Dec 26, 2008 14:50:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the Karma!
I am currently adding more detail to the model with the intent of making a short animated video with scenes of the compound from different vantage points.
Can anyone supply me with photos of the buildings opposite the church (the west wall)? Perhaps I could work a "then versus now" scene into the video.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jan 21, 2009 21:59:27 GMT -5
jrboddie, this model is a marvelous contribution. I do have the capability to see it in Virtual Earth 3D, and all I can say is PLEASE do all of San Antonio de Bexar as well. (I know. Pretty impossible a time demand, but, hey, I can dream.)
You score on several points. Your replication of Mark's precision with his model is superb. It is as good a representation of the model, hence the real thing, as I could imagine.
You score high on your mastery of the 3D model building too. What program did you use to create it? I did one a few years ago using Google SketchUp, but (at that time) it wasn't nearly as sophistocated as the one you used. I also started on Bexar -- got most of the central part of town done -- but, compared to yours, it really looks pretty cartoonish.
I never placed mine on the 3D map. My goal in creating it was simply to test how much of it I could do from my own knowledge and memory, so measurements are not precise. Don't think it would have overlaid with the precision of yours.
Anyway, great job. I second all the above suggestions for high holy days.
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Post by jrboddie on Jan 21, 2009 23:09:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments. I am a novice at this (both 3D and Alamo studies) but I enjoy learning. I used a 3D modeling program called trueSpace. It is a complete solution which includes modeling, texturing, animation and physics tools. There is a learning curve, but many find it easier to use than others. The program is a free download and the company that made it, Caligari, was bought by Microsoft a few months ago. One of its main features is the ability to do real-time rendering of scenes using DirectX (i.e. your graphics card). Most other modeling programs rely on off-line renderers to take more photo-realistic images. TrueSpace can do this also. The port of a model to Virtual Earth is pretty much a one-click deal. I am currently working on adding more details and the ground textures so that I can put together a short animation. Here is a link to the program. Send me a PM if you have any questions about it or check out their forum. www.caligari.com/
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