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Post by marklemon on Jul 5, 2008 22:44:54 GMT -5
(NOTE: I'm not sure where this thread should go, so if the powers that be want to move it, be my guest) About two years ago, I had the idea to create a new set of Alamo trading cards, to replace, or let's say, supplement the set done about 50 years ago, relating to the Disney Fess Parker series. This set would have nothing to do with that show, and would concentrate on the real story, and real events, and would feature original artwork, much in the style of the old "Civil War News" trading cards, put out by Topps, in 1962. Please feel free to post your ideas about this project. I'd especially like to know what particular vignettes you'd like depicted. As it stands now, I'd like to do 88 cards, like the old Topps set, with a checklist. Mark
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Post by steves on Jul 6, 2008 8:04:39 GMT -5
much in the style of the old "Civil War News" trading cards, put out by Topps, in 1962. Mark If they're the same ones we got in the UK,I remember chucking the disgusting bubble-gum that came with them!(and being a Confederate millionaire!)....Would the Alamo itself run to 88 cards?..or are You talking about covering the whole War? Steve
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Post by elcolorado on Jul 6, 2008 9:15:13 GMT -5
I vaguely remember the Civil War trading cards but don't recall any Alamo cards. I think it's a great idea and the timing is right. You've got the skills, Mark. Go for it!
Glenn
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Post by stuart on Jul 6, 2008 15:39:49 GMT -5
much in the style of the old "Civil War News" trading cards, put out by Topps, in 1962. Mark If they're the same ones we got in the UK,I remember chucking the disgusting bubble-gum that came with them!(and being a Confederate millionaire!)....Would the Alamo itself run to 88 cards?..or are You talking about covering the whole War? Steve Likewise, I preferred the money to the cards... I'd have thought sticking to the Alamo would make more commercial sense than covering the whole war, besides which its surprising how quickly those 88 units would be eaten up; Travis, Bowie, Crockett; Bonham; Dickinson; Santa Anna; Almonte; Cos; Sesma; Morales - thats 10 cards gone just for starters and we haven't even started.
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Post by marklemon on Jul 6, 2008 21:21:07 GMT -5
If they're the same ones we got in the UK,I remember chucking the disgusting bubble-gum that came with them!(and being a Confederate millionaire!)....Would the Alamo itself run to 88 cards?..or are You talking about covering the whole War? Steve Likewise, I preferred the money to the cards... I'd have thought sticking to the Alamo would make more commercial sense than covering the whole war, besides which its surprising how quickly those 88 units would be eaten up; Travis, Bowie, Crockett; Bonham; Dickinson; Santa Anna; Almonte; Cos; Sesma; Morales - thats 10 cards gone just for starters and we haven't even started. I can truthfully say that the cards left an indelible impression on me, and I can hardly remember the money at all! That just shows how left-brained versus right-brained people differ, even at an early age. I was just a visual junkie, and the graphic, even bloody, images hooked my 7 year old imagination from the get-go. But Stuart, you make an excellent suggestion, and I'm embarrassed to admit I hadn't even thought about individual "portrait" cards of key players. That's an idea that I'll definitely implement. And, yes, the cards will cover just the siege and battle. I'm still strongly favoring the 88-card format, if for no other reason than to honor the old Topps card set.
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Post by bobdurham on Jul 7, 2008 6:32:26 GMT -5
Hi Mark,
I think trading cards would be a great idea. I know I'd get a couple of sets; one for me and one for my four-year old grandson. I've been introducing him to the Davy Crockett legend via Disney's Davy Crockett: King of the Wild Frontier movie. He has a coonskin cap, Alamo soldiers . . .
I had almost a complete set of the Disney film trading cards -- I'm not sure if I've ever completely forgiven my mother for throwing them away.
Bob
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Post by elcolorado on Jul 7, 2008 8:15:41 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more exciting it sounds. This idea has enormous potential. Both monetary and educational. With a million plus visitors to the Alamo and Alamo Plaza each year, this appears to be an ingenious way informing and educating lots of people - especially our youth. I can't imagine a gift shop in San Antonio that wouldn't carry "Alamo Trading Cards" were they to become available.
Here are some ideas for you, Mark:
1. Individual portraits of all the primary participants (including non-combatants). But they don't have to limited to a single portrait. For example: You could have multiple portraits like - Crockett the Congressmen, Crockett the Bear Hunter, Crockett at the Alamo, etc.
2. Pictures showing significant features, implements and items. A) Church B) Palisade C) Low Barracks (Bowie's room) D) Long Barracks E) Lunette F) The gun battery's G) The eighteen pounder H) Various weapons (including the Bowie knife) that were used on both sides I) The different "Alamo Flags" and Mexican Flags (Red Flag) J) Mexican uniforms K) Battle scenes
The back of the cards would of course have a persons "bio" or some other informative description. These are but a handful of examples of what you could put on a card. If you wanted to, you could exceed the "88" you're considering. Like I said, this has enormous potential. A virtual untapped gold mine. I wish I had your artistic talent, Mark.
Glenn
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Post by billchemerka on Jul 7, 2008 8:23:46 GMT -5
Of course, we're not talking about just one set!
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jul 7, 2008 10:12:14 GMT -5
This does sound like a great idea and I'd buy at least 2 or 3 sets myself, maybe more for gifts.
I actually still do have almost all of the original Disney Davy Crockett cards. I have the entire orange-back set and am missing only 2 cards from the green-back set: #20A - “Ambush” (which, apparently, no one has) and #45A - “Davy Has Company”. Each set has 80 cards, not 88.
I have a couple of duplicates from the green-back set, so if anyone wants to trade either of the cards I'm missing, please PM me.
I once pasted them into a photo album using rubber cement, so there isn't too much damage to the backs and you can read them. I now have them in plastic sheets.
AW
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Post by marklemon on Jul 7, 2008 13:46:17 GMT -5
Allen The "88" I was refering to is the number of cards in the Topps "Civil War News" cards, produced in about 1962. It consisted of 88 cards with a checklist card. I have seen the Disney Davy Crockett cards, but am not very familiar with them> As they were simply photos set to cards, that didn't appeal to me as much as the gory colorful art in the Civil War set. Mark
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jul 7, 2008 13:52:19 GMT -5
Sorry Mark -- I was confused. I do recall the set you're talking about, but I don't have those. Your idea sounds very promising; I can see this really going over in San Antonio and even being used as a promotional tool.
AW
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Post by billchemerka on Jul 8, 2008 8:47:15 GMT -5
Allen The "88" I was refering to is the number of cards in the Topps "Civil War News" cards, produced in about 1962. It consisted of 88 cards with a checklist card. I have seen the Disney Davy Crockett cards, but am not very familiar with them> As they were simply photos set to cards, that didn't appeal to me as much as the gory colorful art in the Civil War set. Mark "Gory?" Indeed! Cards like "Gasping For Air" (#35), "Flaming Death" (#65) and "Victim Of The War (#66), among many others, were certainly "gory." To be sure, a similarly crafted Alamo set would have its sanguinary opportunities: "North Wall Blast," "Bayonet Thrust," and "Bowie Knife Slash."
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Post by stuart on Jul 8, 2008 15:44:26 GMT -5
And just to maintain the spirit of the old Topps set each could be accompanied by reproduction promissary notes issued by the provisional government ;D
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Post by marklemon on Jul 8, 2008 23:18:31 GMT -5
This might sound nutty, but I'm going to try to do them in the style of Norm Saunders, the artist who drew most of the Civil War set, and drew the entire Mars Attacks set. I'll try to duplicate the lurid colors, as well as the drawing style. Since I'm very familiar with his technique, and used to draw my own versions of them, I think I can pull it off. We'll see, anyway. The project will take probably a few years to do all of the cards, and then, I'll have to sell the idea to my publisher.
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Post by Kevin Young on Mar 15, 2009 15:22:14 GMT -5
Mark-
There would probably be a mark for this. I know that the WWII cards that were being sold during the 50th did well at several sites.
In the style of Mars Attacks! A soldado bayonetting a dog (or to be accurate, shoting a cat)? Nah-wouldn't be the same as the Martian blasting the family pet.
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