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Post by Paul Sylvain on Mar 30, 2011 4:21:52 GMT -5
The Fred Gwynne Crockett was from a 1971 episode of the CBS Saturday morning show, You Are There. Herman Munster as David Crockett? Whodathunk? I do remember the "You Are There" series, though I don't remember this episode. Even Uncle Walter, who was the most-trusted news guy of his time, got some of it wrong. I mean, 8,000 Mexicans killed? Thanks for posting this.
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Post by Kevin Young on Mar 30, 2011 7:08:27 GMT -5
I remember watching that episode and hearing Walter announce that number and saying "that's wrong." My older brother responded who was I (being in junior high) to question Walter-after all he was the news guy of news guys...
That episode is a real monsyer fest...Travis is played by Roger Davis who played the werewolf on Dark Shadows.
Of course there was a Time Tunnel episode (Crockett already killed before the big battle) and a Wagon Train episode dealing with a Moses Rose type character and a Mexican bandit who was an Alamo veteran.
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Post by Chuck T on Mar 30, 2011 9:37:27 GMT -5
You are There first hit the airwaves in the mid 1950's. 1954 or thereabouts. Of course then it was in black and white with people like Severide and Douglas Edwards. Looking at this u-tube I am not sure if this is not one of the original episodes presented in color for Saturday morning TV. The original as I recall was on Sunday's at around 6:00 PM EST, maybe a little earlier. It was a must see for me. This particular episode along with Disney's Crockett and the Last Command were my early introduction to the Alamo. Now how many of you had the Alamo set by Marx Toys? BC Yes over FA. Anna Maria - well enought said. She still looks better at 74 than most women do at 18.
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Post by Chuck T on Mar 30, 2011 9:49:05 GMT -5
If anyone is looking for outstanding versions of The Ballad of the Alamo and Green Leaves of Summer try to find the versions done by the folk group Bud and Travis (Bud Dashiel and Travis Edmondson). Better than any of the others for my money. I know it was released on a 45rpm single that I had for years. Don't know if it ever made it to one of their albums. I have several but it is not on any one of them. Allen. this looks like a detective story you could solve.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 30, 2011 10:22:20 GMT -5
Chuck, a quick check of Amazon, iTunes, eBay, and the Bud & Travis website turns up no LP or CD with that recording; just the original single. I don't recall how much of an impact it made at the time, although I do recall hearing it on the radio a few times. It's a good version, but my guess is that it was overshadowed by the Marty Robbins version, which was released both as a single and on "The Alamo" soundtrack LP.
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Post by Chuck T on Mar 30, 2011 12:06:07 GMT -5
Allen: Marty was on Columbia as I recall and had the incomperable Mitch Miller backing him so I would agree with "impact"
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 30, 2011 12:30:55 GMT -5
Yeah, but Frank Sinatra would not have shared that view of Mitch!
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Post by loucapitano on Apr 1, 2011 15:52:47 GMT -5
Don't forget the Kingston Trio who recorded a song called "Remember the Alamo." The opening line haunted me as a child. "One hundred and eighty were challenged by Travis to Die..." I still get chills when I hear it.
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Post by Paul Sylvain on Apr 2, 2011 4:41:16 GMT -5
Don't forget the Kingston Trio who recorded a song called "Remember the Alamo." The opening line haunted me as a child. "One hundred and eighty were challenged by Travis to Die..." I still get chills when I hear it. You mean ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGPBLkZggXI ... ? Enjoy. Paul
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Post by Allen Wiener on Apr 2, 2011 8:53:55 GMT -5
They also released a live concert version many years later; it's on a CD somewhere.
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Post by Danny48 on Apr 2, 2011 10:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by Paul Sylvain on Apr 2, 2011 12:31:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the director was going for that "it sure has been a long, hard, 13-day siege and man am I feeling kinda haggard" look.
Or maybe he was thinking, "Car 54 Where Are You"?
Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
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Post by loucapitano on Apr 2, 2011 14:44:38 GMT -5
Paul, thanks for the Youtube link to the Kingston Trio. In it you can drill down to just about anything on that site. I loved seeing the Fess Parker scenes. Allen, I purchased that CD on Amazon a few years ago. Maybe it's still available. PS: One of the finest versions of the "Green Leaves of Summer" was done by an orchestra called 101 Strings in the early 60s. I have it on vinyl along with a collection of other movie themes of the era.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Apr 2, 2011 15:29:14 GMT -5
[*******SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION ALERT*******]
Lou - if I have not already mentioned it, you may want to pick up a copy of "Music of the Alamo: From 19th Century Ballads to Big Screen Soundtracks," written by Bill Chemerka and that Wiener dude. It's an exhaustive listing of all the songs/recordings related the Alamo and its major figures and I think you'd get a lot out of it.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Apr 3, 2011 13:36:42 GMT -5
[*******SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION ALERT*******] Lou - if I have not already mentioned it, you may want to pick up a copy of "Music of the Alamo: From 19th Century Ballads to Big Screen Soundtracks," written by Bill Chemerka and that Wiener dude. It's an exhaustive listing of all the songs/recordings related the Alamo and its major figures and I think you'd get a lot out of it. WHAT'S THAT BOOK AGAIN, ALLEN? ? Would you mind repeating that?
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