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Post by 5thgentexan on Jan 23, 2015 13:19:33 GMT -5
Very interesting, Rich. Makes me think of how the Santa Anna character in the 2004 Alamo movie constantly referred to the Alamo defenders as "pirates." Seems I remember thinking that a bit strange - makes total sense after your post.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jan 23, 2015 13:32:15 GMT -5
His common reference to them in reality was "land pirates."
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jan 23, 2015 21:10:10 GMT -5
I think that was the reason for keeping the NOG flag and he probably did burn any others. From what I can recall, there was a two-star flag over the fort somewhere that was never seen after the battle.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jan 24, 2015 1:03:32 GMT -5
Yes, the twin-star flag is the only flag for which there is corroborative evidence that it was flown by the Tejanos and/or the Texians during the siege. Even the NOG flag may not have been actually flown, it was just a company banner. But Almonte described the flag in his diary on the 23rd. of February when the saw it raised and then taken down again in town as they approached from the Campo Santo. Also, Sanchez-Navarro clearly shows it flying over the Alamo church in his drawing "From the roof of the Veramendi House." Here is the Sanchez-Navarro plat and elevation showing the flag: alamostudies.proboards.com/thread/688/nchez-navarro-view-plan-alamo(Thanks to the late Bruce Moses.)
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jan 25, 2015 18:03:00 GMT -5
Yes, the twin-star flag is the only flag for which there is corroborative evidence that it was flown by the Tejanos and/or the Texians during the siege. Even the NOG flag may not have been actually flown, it was just a company banner. But Almonte described the flag in his diary on the 23rd. of February when the saw it raised and then taken down again in town as they approached from the Campo Santo. Also, Sanchez-Navarro clearly shows it flying over the Alamo church in his drawing "From the roof of the Veramendi House." Here is the Sanchez-Navarro plat and elevation showing the flag: alamostudies.proboards.com/thread/688/nchez-navarro-view-plan-alamo(Thanks to the late Bruce Moses.) Thanks Rich! I really miss the great work that Bruce did.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jan 25, 2015 19:17:46 GMT -5
Me too.
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Post by TRK on Jan 27, 2015 9:53:25 GMT -5
I'll add my voice to the "I miss Bruce" chorus. The Alamo archaeology data and images he posted on this forum are simply invaluable resources. Here's what scares me: Bruce uploaded all of his imagery to his own Photobucket account: not to the forum's limited photo-storage facilities. His Photobucket account has apparently been dormant since his death several years ago, but luckily his images still appear in this forum. However, photo-hosting sites have a way of deleting accounts that have been long dormant, and that may be a possibility with Bruce's photos. It would be a tragedy to wake up some morning and find all those photos gone, replaced by blank panes. It would be a good project for any members with the knowhow and the time to figure out a way to archive all those photos so they will be available for all to view in the future. Either that, or start downloading and saving any of Bruce's imagery you want to make sure you'll have access to for the foreseeable future. I'm not trying to set off an alarm; just saying that the longterm availability of Bruce's photos is not guaranteed.
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jan 27, 2015 20:47:15 GMT -5
Great advice. I had actually downloaded a bunch of them years ago, but lost them all in MY computer crash before Christmas.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jan 27, 2015 21:32:56 GMT -5
Someone direct me to Bruce's photobucket site and I'll see if it's possible to simply save them into my computer. If so, I can back that up on a flash drive too. That's what I've done with all of my own photos.
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Post by TRK on Jan 27, 2015 21:55:20 GMT -5
Check your email, buddy.
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