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Post by Rich Curilla on Dec 17, 2012 1:25:18 GMT -5
Here's an interesting Raven story in a cut scene from THE ALAMO (2004) between Dennis Quaid and Wes Studi written by John Lee Hancock.
EXT. INDIAN CAMP - OUTSIDE OF CAMP - DAY
Chief Bowles sits, staring at the river. Houston walks over.
HOUSTON (CHEROKEE) How did I come by my Indian name?
BOWLES (CHEROKEE) The Raven is proud and dark. And alone. That was you as a boy, when you first came to us.
HOUSTON (ENGLISH) And now?
BOWLES (ENGLISH) Now they have another name for you... Ootstetee Ardeetahskee.
HOUSTON (ENGLISH) (almost to himself) The Big Drunk.
BOWLES (ENGLISH) In the stories, the Raven is often cursed -- he is beaten and crushed and left for dead. But in the end he outwits his enemy.
Houston looks at Bowles. What is the old man getting at?
BOWLES (ENGLISH) (CONT'D) Of course that is only in stories. And you are the Raven no more
EXT. INDIAN CAMP - DAY
Houston, dressed again in his Anglo clothes, mounts his horse and turns to Talehina. They share a look.
TALEHINA (CHEROKEE) Don't return here. Your pride has chosen for you.
Houston almost smiles then slowly walks the horse away. The walk turns into a lope, then a gallop as he disappears.
(My kingdom for John Lee's director's cut of THE ALAMO!)
The complete final draft John Lee Hancock screenplay as filmed is also in Frank Thompson's The Alamo: The Illustrated Story of the Epic Film.
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Post by sloanrodgers on Dec 17, 2012 22:45:29 GMT -5
It looks familiar from Thompson's book, but it sounds similar to Lester and the dubious Houston romance stories from the mid to late 19th Century. As you know Talehina (Tiana or Diana) was alleged to be Houston's Indian wife while he was mourning his exodus from Eliza and the Tennessee governor's office. I'm wondering if the tale of Talehina is a later version of Houston's supposed marriage to Tootooloo or Sun-Flash. Of course rumors, newspapers and other sources had Houston keeping a few squaws like some modern politicians.
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Post by sloanrodgers on Dec 18, 2012 21:23:25 GMT -5
...but it's all water-under-the-bridge if he inspired more Alamo and Texas Revolution research. I couldn't agree more. I also never met Mr. Lindley in person, talked to him by phone and since he wasn't a computer guy, never conversed with him by pm or email. The only interaction I ever had with him was through often defensive representatives on another site. Unfortunately, I think I butted heads with Lindley a few times due to this awkward communication and misinformation. We were also similar in our approaches to Texas-based, down and dirty research in various state archives. Of course living in the state capitol and having access to numerous web databases, I was faster on the draw. I have always been a better researcher and ally than an enemy. I understand that some of Lindley's friends retain bitter feelings and are still expressing outrage about mild things that were said and done five or six years ago, which is just not healthy. Sam Houston had a long memory for every insult and slight, then responded in kind, which usually hurt him in the end with endless retaliation. Houston was much better off when he forgave, forgot or remained silent on a divisive subject. He was the bigger man when he did so and it paid off with Col. Neill's 1841 letters. * Word substitution 12/20
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Post by sloanrodgers on Jan 21, 2013 19:49:53 GMT -5
Sam Houston's face is on the cover of the February 2013 American History Magazine and there is a laudatory article with a dozen seperate photographs and paintings of him within. The Houston story is titled: Why can't we find more leaders like Sam Houston? The piece states Houston's virtues, accomplishments and only a few vices in seven vignettes. The article seems a little biased toward him, but nine magazines flew off the B & N shelf before I grabbed the last copy on Friday.
I found the article interesting. I don't agree with some of former Texas Monthly editor Gregory Curtis' facts and conclusions on Houston, but here are the vignette titles:
1. He wasn't afraid of the unknown. 2. He was brave, but witty. 3. He suffered for love. 4. He risked his life for freedom. 5. He turned his enemies into friends. 6. He rose above partisan politics. 7. He didn't abuse his power.
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