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Post by Allen Wiener on Feb 3, 2012 16:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Paul Sylvain on Feb 4, 2012 11:04:13 GMT -5
Cool. I enjoyed "A Terrible Glory" and thought it was well done. Hopefully this one turns out as good. Probably not much promise of anything new in his telling of this story?
Paul
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Post by timniesen on Feb 4, 2012 12:44:44 GMT -5
I suspect that there will be new evidence found. Certainly, he has put a great deal of effort and time into the book. He spent at least a month at the Lindley archive. I will email him. Amazon states that the book is out in May, but the last time I spoke to him, he estimated October as the publication date. Tim
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Post by Hollowhorn on Feb 4, 2012 14:21:31 GMT -5
Where is the archive located? Has any of it been published online? I find Tom Lindley's work fascinating.
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Post by Kevin Young on Feb 4, 2012 15:02:22 GMT -5
Tom's stuff is at Texas State in San Marcos (SW Texas for the older crowd). Nothing on line.
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Post by TRK on May 7, 2012 14:52:52 GMT -5
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Post by Allen Wiener on May 7, 2012 17:10:10 GMT -5
Nice review; my copy was waiting for me when I got home from a long day of microfiliming and databasing it at the Library of Congress, so the last thing I want to do is read anything right now!! But, I'm very anxious to read this and will begin very soon.
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Post by Bill Manuel on May 7, 2012 18:26:54 GMT -5
Sounds like a good book. I'll have to get that one ordered.
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Post by Allen Wiener on May 7, 2012 20:01:10 GMT -5
OK, OK! I couldn't resist going through the notes! Jack Davis is right; you skip the notes, you lose big time. The note on Crockett's death is worth reading on its own. Nice evaluation weighing all the sources and giving valid attention to important secondary sources which, for once, are as important as the primary evidence itself. This is one of those cases where evaluation is key. Also see notes on Louis/Moses Rose, Zuber and that whole scene. Looking forward to reading this one, as soon as I regain my eyesight!
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Post by Herb on May 7, 2012 20:58:02 GMT -5
Got my copy in the mail, I wanted to hold off reading it until next week, but like Allen, I've been reading the notes. I've always wanted to believe in the Line, and at first glance, Jim provides what appears to be a well researched and documented account to whether it happened or not.
From just a first look, I think this is going to be a must have book!
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Post by sloanrodgers on May 7, 2012 23:10:52 GMT -5
I think I'll test drive a chapter or two for free at Barnes and Noble before buying this one. The last new Alamo book (Exodus from the Alamo) I bought was a train wreck of misinformation and bad interpretation. I don't want to make that mistake again with my Mo' money. Oh but I did buy Wade's book at the State Capitol Gift Shop last week while on a mission to the Archives.
PS. I also found a cool book called To Tyrants Never Yield at Half-Price Books by a former San Antonian.
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Post by loucapitano on May 10, 2012 14:27:28 GMT -5
I'm glad Amazon lets you preview sections of a book online. I found the early chapter on Travis illuminating and seems to support the character we have grown to know and love in our studies. But the excerpts also enclosed notes on the Death of Crockett. I found them especially interesting and well documented that Crockett and a few survivors were not executed after the battle at Santa Anna's orders. Actually, for the first time, I read a version that said his body was identified at or near the West Wall battery. Most reports of his death say it was near the Chapel. If we believe that Crockett remained at the Palisade throughout the seige and final battle, it makes sense his body would be found there. Actually, the execution stories all seem to occur near the Chapel. But if you believe that Crockett's nature was to be wearever he was needed, as described by Travis in a battle report, he may well have assisted at the North Wall and retreated to the center West Wall battery and perished at that location. At least, Ruiz, the Mayor of Bexar, identified his body there. Very interesting. Gotta read the whole book now. Any comments on this point would be welcome. Crockett's death, like the deaths of many famous people, always seems to confuse the witnesses and the historians. Lou from Long Island
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Post by Herb on May 10, 2012 15:30:50 GMT -5
I think I'll test drive a chapter or two for free at Barnes and Noble before buying this one. The last new Alamo book (Exodus from the Alamo) I bought was a train wreck of misinformation and bad interpretation. I don't want to make that mistake again with my Mo' money. I didn't buy "Exodus" it seemed to me, very early in the process to be am agenda/conclusion driven book. Donovan's book is just the opposite a research driven work, with the conclusions being based solely on the research. While it is narrative history, his endnotes explain the process that led him to his conclusions. I may not agree 100% with his conclusions, but I can see and follow the logic he's used. So far I haven't seen anything that isn't logically based on a cited source.
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Post by Herb on May 10, 2012 15:58:36 GMT -5
Lou, check out the faq, under How did Crockett die? There's a 12 page discussion of where did he die.
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Post by sloanrodgers on May 10, 2012 19:31:19 GMT -5
I think I'll test drive a chapter or two for free at Barnes and Noble before buying this one. The last new Alamo book (Exodus from the Alamo) I bought was a train wreck of misinformation and bad interpretation. I don't want to make that mistake again with my Mo' money. I didn't buy "Exodus" it seemed to me, very early in the process to be am agenda/conclusion driven book. Donovan's book is just the opposite a research driven work, with the conclusions being based solely on the research. While it is narrative history, his endnotes explain the process that led him to his conclusions. I may not agree 100% with his conclusions, but I can see and follow the logic he's used. So far I haven't seen anything that isn't logically based on a cited source. Yea, I'm sure there is no comparison to Exodus and I'll get around to Donovan's book. Presently I'm reading Kevin's old Tyrants book.
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