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Post by TRK on Mar 4, 2011 11:17:50 GMT -5
Anybody collecting these new cd sets? Are they must-haves? Much repetition of tracks that have been previously officially released?
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 4, 2011 11:26:28 GMT -5
I haven't heard of them, Tom. Are these actually bootlegs, or in name only, as in Dylan's ongoing "Bootleg" CD series?
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Post by TRK on Mar 4, 2011 12:21:39 GMT -5
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 4, 2011 13:06:11 GMT -5
The sole reviewer there noted that Vol. 1 is really just a reissue of the 2006 release "Personal File". He says "The Bootleg Vol I notation is very deceiving - this is a re-release. Vol 2 is not." I'll check out Volume 2. Oddly, you can buy the Vol 2 CD on Amazon for $10, but both Amazon and iTunes are charging $15 for the download!
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Post by Richard Weddle on Mar 7, 2011 8:14:31 GMT -5
Yes, but Personal File started the idea of releasing Johnny Cash's hitherto unknown personal tapes posthumously. They haven't changed the title, merely added a prefix: "The Bootleg Series Vol. 1: Personal File." I'm glad Cash's estate and Sony / Columbia are finally opening his vault. I know there is some great music hidden away. Maybe now we'll get to hear some of it. I have a cassette tape Cash gave me of an outlaw ballad he recorded for a proposed remake of the John Wayne classic Angel and the Badman (1947). My script never got made, but he liked it, and had committed to it. Two takes. I think the idea was to splice them together. He performs solo on acoustic guitar and it's one of his most inspired songs. If the songs they are finding in his vault are as good as this, the fans are in for a real treat.
Richard
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 7, 2011 8:36:36 GMT -5
That's a valuable and prized tape, Richard! Must have been a great experience to meet the guy and deal with him on a personal and professional level. I can't think of much (if anything) I've heard by Cash that wasn't worth listening to. His voice and commitment to his songs were very compelling.
I hope your film gets made some day and Cash's song is used in it.
Allen
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Post by Paul Sylvain on Mar 7, 2011 12:55:12 GMT -5
I saw Cash perform in Germany back in the early '70s. Great show with his TV regulars with him -- Carl Perkins, the Statlers, Ma Mabel and the Carter Family. Great show, although it was pretty strange to see those West Berliners, in all their finest western regalia, speaking in German.
Don't muchg about the tapes in question, but Cash certainly marched to his own drum and created some incredible music beyong "the hits." I would be interested in hearing the stuff that was locked away all these years.
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Post by Jim Boylston on Mar 7, 2011 17:14:08 GMT -5
I met Cash about 1986. The man had an unbelievable presence. He was soft-spoken and very polite but, boy, he filled the room.
Jim
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 7, 2011 17:19:49 GMT -5
That's the impression I always had of him, and I'm sorry I never met him. I think he'd have been a wonderful interview, going back to the days at Sun Records and his take on everyone who passed through there. I've heard he didn't like movie acting because the process is so slow and very boring most of the time. Yet, I think he made a fine, natural actor in the few things I've seen him in. He did a nice turn as Crockett on the second Disney Crockett TV series and was very good in a TV special on John Ross, the Cherokee chief. I liked him in "A Gunfight" with Kirk Douglas and he was great on "Columbo."
What's everyone's take on the movie "I Walk the Line"? I enjoyed it, but felt it was too focused on his various problems and the negative side of his character. I have no problem with "warts and all" portrayals, but his music was practically an afterthought in that film, and his music is the reason we know or care who he was. I have the same problem with the fixation on Elvis's personal life, weird habits and strange ways.
By contrast, I'm not sure I'd want to be alone in a room with Jerry Lee Lewis, although I consider him a major rock & roll pioneer.
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Post by TRK on Mar 7, 2011 20:01:32 GMT -5
I don't know if "I Walk the Line" was absolutely factual, but Cash had a huge monkey on his back in the '60s. There's some up-close footage of him in that Dylan documentary, "Eat the Document," and Cash looks like death warmed over. The filmmakers of "Walk the Line" made a decision to emphasize his addictions and foul-ups, so June Carter could save his life--which in fact happened. The death of his brother was a huge negative influence on his life too; no way they could have glossed that over and made an honest picture.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 7, 2011 20:09:53 GMT -5
I agree, Tom, and I suppose if you're making a 2-hour movie and want to stick with that theme there isn't a lot of room to celebrate his music. Most Hollywood bio-pics to lean that way, rather than giving us 2 hours of music footage, which isn't very dramatic and I would not have wanted them to do a whitewash. I liked the movie and thought the 2 stars were terrific. I'm not entirely sure that Cash ever kicked his drug habit completely, but I knew that June Carter did save his butt; he carried a lot of baggage around in his head and I think his brother's grizzly death was a major factor.
I recall seeing "Eat the Document" long ago along with another Dylan documentary when I was researching the Beatles. Isn't there a scene in one of the films shot in the back of limo with Dylan and the Beatles (or at least Lennon) where Dylan throws up all over the place?
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 7, 2011 20:20:57 GMT -5
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Post by TRK on Mar 7, 2011 20:29:59 GMT -5
Allen, those clips (actually, broken links) are also from "Eat the Document." Just a few moments of that Dylan/Lennon footage appear in the "finished" film, which was never officially released. I used to have that whole sequence, lasting what seemed like an eternity, on videotape--a real horrorshow ;D
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 7, 2011 20:32:59 GMT -5
I recall hearing the audio portion on some early bootleg LPs, but I don't think I've seen the film. IIRC, "Don't Look Back" was released.
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Post by TRK on Mar 7, 2011 21:03:10 GMT -5
Some might find "Eat the Document" unwatchable: it has the feel of a cut-and-paste job. But there's some cool footage in there. There's a minute or less of Johnny Cash and Dylan singing "I Still Miss Someone" with Dylan on piano. Dylan's trying to convince Cash to change two of the lines to, "I wonder if she's sorry / For leavin' me so undone." Cash ain't buying it.
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