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Post by jrboddie on Aug 7, 2010 13:46:27 GMT -5
Where do you place the location of Sesma on February 23 relative to modern San Antonio landmarks? Called Alazan Heights, some references put this as north of Alazan Creek and others refer to this location as west of Bexar. The problem is that Alazan Creek is NW of Bexar so a hill north of Alazan Creek is not exactly 'west' to my thinking.
Also some references indicate the distance to be 1.5 to 1.8 miles from Bexar. If true, then they were not exactly at the top of the heights but more on the slope.
So is there a place that is definitively Alazon Heights?
Perhaps there is a nice historical marker at the corner of X and Y streets that says; "Near this spot the Mexican cavalry unit of General Ramirez y Sesma overlooked the town of Bexar on February 23, 1836"?
Further confusion: Wikipedia places the battle of Alazan Creek (1813) as SW of the city!
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Post by alanhufffines on Aug 7, 2010 13:57:28 GMT -5
Are you asking where Sutherland and Smith first saw Sesma?
If so , yes, there is an Alazon/Apache Heights west of SA. I could drive you there but doubt I can write you there. Been awhile.
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Post by jrboddie on Aug 7, 2010 15:00:48 GMT -5
Alan, Thanks for the reply. I would be very pleased if you would drive me to Alazan Heights! (I ordered your book through Amazon 2 days ago.) Jim
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Post by alanhufffines on Aug 7, 2010 15:25:03 GMT -5
I think there is a footnote detailing the location. Glad you bought it--everybody needs to have a copy--great stocking stuffer.
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Post by Hiram on Apr 27, 2011 22:20:51 GMT -5
Where do you place the location of Sesma on February 23 relative to modern San Antonio landmarks? Called Alazan Heights, some references put this as north of Alazan Creek and others refer to this location as west of Bexar. The problem is that Alazan Creek is NW of Bexar so a hill north of Alazan Creek is not exactly 'west' to my thinking. Also some references indicate the distance to be 1.5 to 1.8 miles from Bexar. If true, then they were not exactly at the top of the heights but more on the slope. The crest of Alazan Heights is near the intersection of Buena Vista and S. Zarzamora. The neighborhood is known as Prospect Hill.
On an unrelated topic, if anyone finds themselves near that area, do yourself a favor and grab a cheeseburger, fries, and a shake at The Malt House (a long-time local favorite eatery.)
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Post by Hiram on Apr 28, 2011 12:25:57 GMT -5
The crest of Alazan Heights is near the intersection of Buena Vista and S. Zarzamora. The neighborhood is known as Prospect Hill. That area is 2.0 miles west of San Fernando, so if Sesma is 100% accurate, they are on the upper slope of the heights.
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Post by jrboddie on Apr 29, 2011 12:57:32 GMT -5
Thank you for confirming the location for me.
Next time I'm in San Antonio I'll have to check out The Malt House too!
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Post by Hiram on Apr 29, 2011 16:25:02 GMT -5
As for the location of the 1813 battle near Alazan Creek, that has never been clearly established.
For those looking for a general area, here is a decent (obviously modern) map of Alazan Creek and other creeks that either feed in or out of Alazan.
goo.gl/DdmEv
The crest of the heights described in a previous post would be west of Alazan Creek and slightly north of Apache Creek.
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