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Mr Rose
Jul 27, 2017 15:19:14 GMT -5
Post by loucapitano on Jul 27, 2017 15:19:14 GMT -5
I notice a paucity of responses to anything Alamo. I remember when the conversations back and forth filled half a dozen threads at one time. Has everything that can be said about the Alamo been said? I hope not. There are hundreds of members logging on each week. I think we'd like to hear from them and re-start our lively conversations again. Best of all, Alamo Forum members often added scholarshipabout other interesting battles from Yorktown, to Gettysburg, from Custer to Rorke's Drift and Bataan. I miss those days. Lou from Long Island
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Mr Rose
Jul 28, 2017 0:01:56 GMT -5
Post by mjbrathwaite on Jul 28, 2017 0:01:56 GMT -5
You're right, Lou. I don't have a lot to say on many issues as, while I have an interest in all things relating to the Alamo, the only topics I'm sufficiently familiar to contribute much are the deaths of David Crockett and Jim Bowie. I have a fondness for historical mysteries, and if there were threads on Robin Hood or what became of Fletcher Christian after the mutiny on the Bounty I'd have plenty to say. When I have commented on David Crockett's death on the forum, I've sometimes got the impression my remarks weren't appreciated. Although I'm not firmly on either side of the debate, I can spot a weak argument, such as the one in "The Blood of Heroes". I do check for new posts every day, but if there aren't any I tend not to log in. Regards, Michael.
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Mr Rose
Aug 1, 2017 15:12:55 GMT -5
Post by Joshua on Aug 1, 2017 15:12:55 GMT -5
Well, I guess the answer to my question of Rose's movements after the siege of Bexar, is that no one knows....
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Mr Rose
Aug 1, 2017 16:26:58 GMT -5
Post by loucapitano on Aug 1, 2017 16:26:58 GMT -5
I just finished reading Issue 181 of the Alamo Journal. The editor Bill Groneman announced publication will stop after the December Issue 182. I guess the thread has finally run its course. It was a great run while it lasted and I'll certainly miss it. My special thanks go to Bill Groneman and the founder Bill Chemerka and layout designer Mile Boldt and so many others for the marvelous work they did for all these years. I won't forget the Alamo Journal and plan to save every issue I have since #153. Remember the Alamo Lou from Long Island
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Mr Rose
Aug 1, 2017 17:37:10 GMT -5
Post by mjbrathwaite on Aug 1, 2017 17:37:10 GMT -5
Joshua, the problem with Rose is that we don't really know how much truth there is in the account of his escaping from the Alamo and recovering from his leg infections at the home of the Zubers, but I think you'll get a clearer idea of the issues regarding him from the early pages of this thread, if you haven't already done so.
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Mr Rose
Aug 2, 2017 13:35:57 GMT -5
Post by Joshua on Aug 2, 2017 13:35:57 GMT -5
I have. And, as far as I have seen, he never did recover from those infections. Legend has it that on his grave there grew a thorn bush...
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Mr Rose
May 3, 2018 20:47:08 GMT -5
Post by rodrigjose on May 3, 2018 20:47:08 GMT -5
Jose Rod I have a question on this here rose person, They say that there was only one rose in the Alamo, and he kill in the battle, but am i correct that was when the majority of the people thought that only 183 men died in the battle, but now there are a lot of people that say that around 250 men died there. Could he be one of these? Just asking.
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Mr Rose
May 4, 2018 19:50:27 GMT -5
Post by mjbrathwaite on May 4, 2018 19:50:27 GMT -5
Jose, we don't really know anything concrete about Louis Rose other than that he was not the French Louis Roze. There was a James Rose killed at the Alamo, and Louis Rose's presence was testified to by Enrique Esparza and Susanna Dickinson. It's claimed that later in life Rose referred to himself as the "coward of the Alamo", but apparently there's doubt about that too. It's possible that he did escape and stayed with William Zuber's parents, but if he did we don't know how much he told them and how much of the story that William Zuber told was made up by Zuber. Like so many aspects of the Alamo story, there's very little about which we can be certain.
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Post by stuart on May 7, 2018 8:50:51 GMT -5
Jose Rod I have a question on this here rose person, They say that there was only one rose in the Alamo, and he kill in the battle, but am i correct that was when the majority of the people thought that only 183 men died in the battle, but now there are a lot of people that say that around 250 men died there. Could he be one of these? Just asking. The suggestion that there were around 250 men in the Alamo was a theory largely proposed by the late Tom Lindley, who believed that the Gonzales contingent wasn't the only reinforcement to get through. To his credit he tried to identify them by name [see his Alamo Traces] but on closer examination not only did a lot of his arguments fail to stand up, but the list of possible additional volunteers was badly flawed and included men ho are known to have died at Coleto and Goliad or under Grant - and at least one who didn't die at all, or at least didn't die until his time came natural many years after. As to Rose, the problem we've got is spelling variations [including Ross] and more than one guy of that name in Texas at the time. All that we can say for certain is that there's no former French soldier, but there is an awful lot of entrenched legend.
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Mr Rose
May 11, 2019 2:57:59 GMT -5
Post by sloanrodgers on May 11, 2019 2:57:59 GMT -5
A Rose is a Ross by any other name.
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