Hi, Bill, welcome to the Forum! It's been awhile since we talked about all that, at past HHDs. Looking forward to hearing from you on this and other topics! BTW, any news on the project you started with Tom Lindley, and Joe Musso?
Some folks learn by reading, some folks learn by seeing, and some folks just got to pee on the electric fence.
Hi. I'm new to this forum. The quote regarding the name of Wolfe's sons comes from Phil Rosenthal when we worked on Roll Call at the Alamo. The alleged synagogue records also. No one else has ever seen this evidence. I've come to believe it doesn't exist.
Thanks for the clarification, Bill, and welcome to the forum. Looking forward to hearing more from you!
"The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know." -- HST
Thanks for the welcome. I honestly don't know what I will be able to add to the forum. I'm not too good at these things. I just wanted to correct something I knew was to be untrue regarding Anthony Wolfe. This is the same as I tried to do with "John" in the Alamo journal a few issues ago. I feel as if I have been party to messing up the facts, so I want to try to get things right before it is too late.
Jim and Allen, I put that article in the mail yesterday. You have my okay to scan and post all of it or paraphrase it if you want to.
There is no news on the project with Joe Musso and the late Tom Lindley.
Post by sailorcliff on Feb 6, 2020 19:50:57 GMT -5
List of Alamo Defenders: There were two William Patton’s associated with the Alamo. The record of one is well known accept that the date William Hester Patton departed the Alamo is unknown and he “probably” left as a courier. The other which our family is connected to is William Patton nephew of David Crockett thru Crockett’s second wife. William is one of those souls who have been lost to history. (We are also connected to Sam Houston thru marriage of the Williams Family of Texas.)
William was the son of James Patton and a woman whose name is unknown. He came from Buncombe County, North Carolina.
His aunt, Elizabeth Patton, was born in 1788 in Swannanoa, NC and married David Crockett in 1816.
When Crockett set off to Texas he took three companions; Abner Burgin (his brother-in-law), Lindsey Tinkle (a friend) and William. At one point, Tinkle and Burgin turned back. Crockett and Patton continued on, taking the Oath of Allegiance to the Provisional Government of Texas in Nacogdoches in January 1836.
William Patton’s signature appears three below Crockett’s. Patton signed on with his uncle in the fight for Texas independence, but no one knows what became of him between that time and when he joined Houston’s army.
Crockett and the “Tennessee Mounted Volunteers” proceeded on to San Antonio where they met their deaths. But Patton’s name has been ignored all these years. It seems logical to assume he stayed with his uncle. It is also logical to assume he served at the Alamo.
We don’t know where William went after signing the oath, but he next appears on the roll of those fighting at San Jacinto. He is mentioned as acting as a spy in Andrew Briscoe’s unit with an original enlistment date of March 17 or 18. In the “Handbook of Texas Online,” it reads, “A second William Patton, a nephew of David Crockett, accompanied his uncle to Texas in 1835 and enlisted in the Texas army with Crockett at Nacogdoches on January 14, 1836. He enlisted in Capt. Henry Teal’s company on March 17, 1836, for the duration of the war.” Teal later contracted measles and was replaced by Andrew Briscoe.
He was issued Donation Certificate No. 979 for 1280 acres of land December 14, 1837, for serving in the army from March 17, 1836 to December 13, 1837. This he sold at Houston December 22, 1837. He was a member of Captain Henry Teal’s Company of regulars at San Jacinto but did not apply for the 640 acres of land he was entitled to receive for having participated in the battle. In Service Record No. 5772 it is certified that when discharged from the army he was a member of Captain Robert Boyd Irving’s Company. He did not apply for a Headright Certificate and probably left Texas shortly after receiving his discharge from the army.”
It would seem that he would stay with his uncle, unless he was ill and left behind, and go to the Alamo along with the other members of under Capt. William Harrison and his Tennessee Mounted Volunteers.
It could be he was a courier for Travis. Thomas Ricks Lindley speculated that Crockett left the Alamo around the tenth day of the siege to seek volunteers and get information about the location of others seeking to help the Alamo. He accepts that Patton had traveled to the fortress with his uncle and left him on their reconnoiter from the Alamo as a messenger.
Also David Crockett was a savvy and intelligent man and most likes saw the “writing on the wall”. Because of his repetition, he could not leave the Alamo, but he may have decided and requested that his nephew be used as a messenger and given a chance of survival.
He is not the only person who was or may have been at the Alamo and left no record. And what happened to him after he sold part of his land rights and left? Was he killed on his way back, but we know he had problems at home so may have decided to go elsewhere. No other records have been found as yet after his leaving Texas. But it does seem that he must have gone to the Alamo with his uncle Mr. Crockett for there was no reason not to after traveling so far and signing up in the same company as David Crockett did. How he left the Alamo, as messenger or escaped from the battle will always be a mystery.
As such he is one of the few who was at the Alamo and at San Jacinto.