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Post by Chuck T on Jul 29, 2010 17:27:22 GMT -5
Allen: Understand your point. I mentioned it because Borgnine is 93, Cooper is 77 and Albergetti is 74. There may not be another chance to do this. ----Chuck
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Post by Allen Wiener on Jul 29, 2010 20:02:03 GMT -5
I understand; I always wanted to meet Scott Forbes as I really enjoyed his Bowie TV series and his take on JB as a more upbeat sort of fellow than we usually see. I suppose I'd have to regard Hayden as the closest screen representation of Bowie, as far as I know him. I always enjoy watching Widmark in Wayne's movie (in fact, I think he's the best thing in that movie), just as I enjoy watching Val Kilmer's take on Doc Holliday in "Tombstone," accurate or not.
Allen
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Post by Rich Curilla on Jul 29, 2010 22:51:04 GMT -5
Athough this one probably shouldn't be on Allen's list since it isn't completely about Bowie, I'd like to draw your attention to C. F. Eckhardt's book The Lost San Saba Mines. While it's sort of a Texan telling tales more than anything approximating a scholarly work, it still has an interesting chapter on Bowie and his alleged search for the silver mines up around present day Menard. It's sort of like a long Frontier Times story. It was Texas Monthly Press, 1982.
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Post by johnk on Oct 23, 2011 4:34:39 GMT -5
I think the attraction is that like Wyatt Earp,Hickok,etc these men were legends in their own time and so was Jim Bowie and others....Take for example in 1994 movie Tombstone Earp walks into the Oriental Saloon and the bartender introduces himself as Milt Joyce owner.......and Kurt Russell replies Im Wyatt Earp pleased to meet you and Joyce says "yea sure you are"......Thats magic
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Post by historybuff on Apr 3, 2014 5:23:57 GMT -5
Does anyone think that the knife wasn't conficated by the soldados, either before or after his death? I would have picked it up. And who's to say it wasn't "recovered" at San Jacinta. Just a thought. If the latter, whomever got it probably didn't know it's significance to modernity, and couldn't have cared less.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Apr 3, 2014 10:46:31 GMT -5
If there actually was a specific knife. Aside from the Sandbar fight, I don't recall any documentation of Bowie owning a specific, unique knife. His brother, Rezin, was associated with several knives and gave away some knives as gifts. He is credited with making the knife used in the Sandbar fight, which (IIRC) looked more like the large knives in your granny's kitchen than the more iconic Bowie knives. It looked a bit more like the Searles knife, but without the decorative features, like the handle.
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Post by estebans on Apr 3, 2014 17:00:56 GMT -5
Does anyone think that the knife wasn't conficated by the soldados, either before or after his death? I would have picked it up. And who's to say it wasn't "recovered" at San Jacinta. Just a thought. If the latter, whomever got it probably didn't know it's significance to modernity, and couldn't have cared less. Though if a soldado still had it after San Jacinto, they likely would have considered it too heavy to carry back to Mexico on foot, same as Confederate soldiers dumping the D-guard Bowies they'd been photographed with before they started having to march very far. On page 144 of Gregg Dimmick's Sea of Mud book, there's a photo of a guardless-coffin-handle-style Bowie found at one campsite that was probably Urrea's retreating army. It might be from the Alamo, I guess more likely from Goliad or San Patricio, but at any rate, it was a lot of knife to be carrying back across a flooded Texas coastal plain. It's too bad, though, that the existing record of the battlefield auction at San Jacinto is not itemized. IIRC, it only shows buyers' names and how much they spent, not what exactly they bought.
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