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Post by Mike Harris on Mar 30, 2010 19:12:08 GMT -5
Well let me tell you why I hate this 28mm collection. While I admire the painted detail and work put into it, there is a serious flaw in the figure construction. Any first year art student knows that the average male stands 7-8 heads tall. these figures stand 5 heads tall, giving them a comic appearance. It totally negates the notion of a serious fighting man. They end up looking like cartoon characters from some Bizarro world. Conte's plastic figures are much more anatomically correct. I've never seen a 28mm figure that is anatomically correct. Isn't this scale geared more towards wargaming? Are they intended to be as anatomically perfect as the contes figures strive to be? Maybe I'm off base here, but it seems like you're comparing apples and oranges when you compare 28 mm to Conte's 54mm. I'm not a wargamer, so maybe someone could explain, why 28mm are a little "cartoonish"? Regardless of the answer, I still enjoy the 28mm and think some of the sculpts at that scale are incredible. I cleaned out my work room the other day and found close to 1000 Old Glory Texians and Mexicans. Some painted and some still in the unopened bag, plus 2 or 3 bags of unassembled artillery. The cannon with the various carriages are some nice pieces.
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Post by marklemon on Mar 30, 2010 20:23:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I have to agree....you'd think that with today's technology, molds could be made, in any scale, that are proportionally correct. I'm not a model RR'er, but I've seen some German made figures that are TINY in scale (1/144 I think), but hold up very well under close examination (under a magnifying glass). So something else is going on here. I am somewhat of the opinion that they are intentionally made "troll-like" for some as-yet-unknown to me reason. Perhaps, as Mike suggested, for wargaming purposes, or perhaps they are just meant to be "cute."
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Post by Jim Boylston on Mar 30, 2010 20:53:04 GMT -5
Tim mentioned in an earlier post that a friend of his makes these figures. Personally, I like them, especially the detailed paint job. Thanks for posting the pics, Tim!
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Post by marklemon on Mar 30, 2010 23:09:23 GMT -5
Considering they are hand-made, I agree that they are very nice. I guess my larger point is that the majority of 54 mm figures out there today are simply unsuitable and don't pass the "eyeball" test, meaning that as soon as one looks at them, their eyes tell them: "not a real person-a miniature." That is the main reason why there were no figures in my book (a question I am often asked). It is because as soon as I put them in the model, it immediately looked like a model. And the main point of the book was architecture, not an action diorama. That being said, I have seen some figures (not sure who makes them) that are stunningly realistic as to proportions, stance, and detail.
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Post by timg on Mar 31, 2010 6:21:29 GMT -5
Not sure any figures could do justice to your model Mark, finaly got your book not long ago and its amazing.
Not a wargamer myself really just like to paint stuff as best i can and these figures i really like especialy details like costumes etc, the maker has done his homework and is a diehard fan of the period.
There is a tendency to exaggerate with smaller scale figures, heard its something to do with being recognisable on the gaming table but im not sure on that score however im not good at taking photos really which wont help do the figures justice but in the hand they are very nice.
cheers Tim
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Post by Danny48 on Mar 31, 2010 8:23:42 GMT -5
Here's some examples of painted toy soldiers with correct proportions. It can be done. Again, not to take anything away from timg's amazing painting ability and attention to detail. I just wish he had better figures to work with.
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Post by Mike Harris on Mar 31, 2010 9:00:28 GMT -5
Here's some examples of painted toy soldiers with correct proportions. It can be done. Again, not to take anything away from timg's amazing painting ability and attention to detail. I just wish he had better figures to work with. Thanks for posting that, Danny. I hope I didn't imply you were trying to take away from Tim's painting. Didn't mean to. Tim's figures, if I'm correct, are about half the size of your above #'s 1-5 and about as thick. So, I was just saying there must be a logical reason for their exaggerated appearance. The idea of identification Tim put forth, seems about as good as I've heared. Also, as Mark pointed out, there are some figures, N scale (1/144th I think), that are very well done, in terms of proportions. Most of them are geared more towards model RR's, ie., people walking, sitting on benches, city people, etc. I have seen some WW II figures in that scale, but , unfortunately, have never seen anything in that scale for periods such as the Civil War, the "Wild West", Alamo, etc. There's just not much out there, that I've seen, that is military related. If I'm wrong, and I hope I am, someone please let me know if figures this small exist in those categories.
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Post by timg on Apr 9, 2010 13:46:35 GMT -5
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Post by Seguin on Apr 10, 2010 22:04:40 GMT -5
I think they look very nice. Thanks, for posting them, timg!
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Post by reeves54john on Mar 29, 2014 10:14:17 GMT -5
Hey tim, where did you get them? I would like to get some.i have some from a couple different places and they fit well together.great paint job too.
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