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Post by steves on Mar 17, 2011 2:40:59 GMT -5
Finally pick up a 2nd hand copy of Lord..Yes,it's a d**n good read...But I wanted to scream at the comments on Mexican uniforms and the comment on them using blunderbusses.......... Steve
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Post by mark on Mar 16, 2014 21:56:21 GMT -5
Is Mark Lemon's book out of print or currently unavailable? If so, any word on a reprint? Used booksellers are asking considerable sums for the book. If this is the wrong place to ask this, kindly let me know. This is my first post here.
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Post by Jim Boylston on Mar 17, 2014 12:03:46 GMT -5
Is Mark Lemon's book out of print or currently unavailable? If so, any word on a reprint? Used booksellers are asking considerable sums for the book. If this is the wrong place to ask this, kindly let me know. This is my first post here. Welcome to the forum! You might try contacting State House Press, the book's publisher, and inquire. It doesn't seem to be available through Amazon any more. Jim
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Post by rayjr on Mar 17, 2014 17:31:44 GMT -5
Wow. I don't know if it is good or bad - but I bought a copy a couple years ago - and it is still in the shrink wrap!
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Post by Allen Wiener on Mar 17, 2014 17:45:43 GMT -5
Might bring a pretty penny on eBay! It is out of print and older copies are going for anywhere from $425 to $4,500 on Amazon!
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Post by Rich Curilla on Apr 24, 2014 20:06:17 GMT -5
Wow. I don't know if it is good or bad - but I bought a copy a couple years ago - and it is still in the shrink wrap! And let this be a lesson to anybody who.... wants to read a book. The Illustrated Alamo 1836: A Photographic Journey brought the study of Alamo fort architecture ahead by light years and focused us all on everything believed about the place at that moment in time (2008). A monumental amount of buried and/or unpublished research by serious Alamo historians and archaeologists was codified into one volume both visual and descriptive. Naturally, research has continued, and much has been reassessed about various features of the Alamo compound since the publication date, but largely because we got to see the Alamo of 1836 in its entirety for the first time through Mark's finely detailed model presenting every feature in photographic detail for discussion and further research. The very worn out and battered book is still always at my elbo. For those who don't know, the 1/48th. scale model Mark built in his garage in Georgia for the photos in the book is now owned by singer Phil Collins and on display in The History Shop next to the Emily Morgan Hotel across Houston St. from the shrine and is an excellent way to start explaining the real Alamo to newbies or begin understanding it yourself. I highly recommend obtaining this book at any price. (Well, I don't know if I'd pay $4,500......)
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Post by dtcurran on Sept 24, 2014 16:55:43 GMT -5
the best alamo i ever read is the one i am reading now, that is until i get a hold of a new book then that one will be the best. all this meansis you learn from each book you read,that is with the exception of exodus from the alamo which had no redeeming value what so ever. the first alamo book i ever read was walter lord's. it was the first paperback edition, which i still have or at least have parts of,faded, unreadable, with pages falling out, but still agreat book, so good in fact i had to buy another copy
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Post by rayjr on Oct 15, 2014 18:23:53 GMT -5
DT,
I agree completely with your assessment of the "exodus" - so many problems it is impossible to know where to begin...
Ray
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Post by loucapitano on Oct 19, 2014 11:55:36 GMT -5
Alamo Book Treasures: I treasure my faded and crumbling paperbacks, "The Alamo, Thirteen Days to Glory" by Lon Tinkle and "The Alamo by John Myers Myers." But I give most credit to Landmark Books "Remember the Alamo" by Robert Penn Warren, which along with Disney and Fess Parker,kindled the Alamo enthusiast I remain today. Lou from Long Island
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Post by Rich Curilla on Oct 20, 2014 13:06:35 GMT -5
Here is a list I prepared years ago for people visiting Alamo Village who would ask, "What's the best book to read about the Alamo?" No way to answer that. It depends on how you are interested in this multifaceted story. In this bibliography, I have categorized publications in relation to the type of interest I encountered with visitors. I have just updated it.
BASIC ALAMO BIBLIOGRAPHY (My personal choices.)
STUDIES OF THE SIEGE AND BATTLE: (All fine for the reader who wants to know the basics before getting into the details.)
The Blood of Heroes: The 13-Day Struggle for the Alamo -- and the Sacrifice that Forged a Nation James Donovan New York - Boston - London; Little, Brown and Company, 2012 (Excellent presentation; the book I would recommend first if you know nothing about the Alamo.)
Sacrificed at the Alamo: Tragedy and Triumph in the Texas Revolution Richard Bruce Winders, Ph.D. Abilene, TX; State House Press, 2004 (Engagingly traces opposing attitudes in the war all the way back to the Enlightenment!)
The Alamo 1836 - Santa Anna’s Texas Campaign Stephen L. Hardin Oxford; Osprey Publishing, 2001 (Up-to-date narrative.)
A Time to Stand Walter Lord New York; Harper and Brothers, 1961 (A snappy, well-researched chronicle not adverse to questioning the traditional story. It moved Alamology ahead by a quantum leap.)
13 Days to Glory Lon Tinkle New York; McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1958 (The best early telling of the traditional story.) THE TEXAS WAR OF INDEPENDENCE: (How the Alamo fits into the whole Texas war.)
Texian Iliad - A Military History of the Texas Revolution Stephen L. Hardin Austin; University of Texas Press, 1994 (Accurate and readable narrative of the whole revolution.)
The Texas War of Independence 1835-1836 - From Outbreak to the Alamo to San Jacinto Alan C. Huffines Oxford; Osprey Publishing, 2005 (Includes a very informative chapter about the “Babe of the Alamo,” Angelina Dickinson, not covered in any other histories.)
BIOGRAPHIES OF CROCKETT, BOWIE AND TRAVIS: (for the “people oriented” folks, perhaps less interested in the battle.)
Three Roads to the Alamo William C. Davis New York; Harper Collins Publishers, 1998 (Newly researched biographies of the Alamo Trinity and a cutting-edge chapter on the battle.)
David Crockett in Congress: The Rise and Fall of the Poor Man’s Friend James R. Boylston and Allen J. Wiener Houston; Bright Sky Press, 2009 (Definitive research and commentary on a totally neglected period of Crockett’s life.)
David Crockett: Hero of the Common Man William Groneman III New York, Forge, 2005 (Crockett’s true heroism presented by one who knows heroes - a New York fireman..)
EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS: (A fundamental understanding of the Alamo would help here. See first category above.)
Eyewitness to the Alamo Bill Groneman Plano; Republic of Texas Press, 1996 (All eyewitness accounts in full, in their order of their discovery and/or publication)
Blood of Noble Men - The Alamo Siege and Battle Alan C. Huffines Austin; Eakin Press, 1999 (Participants’ comments relating to each day of the siege) (Includes 40 accurate illustrations annotated by illustrator Gary Zaboly)
The Alamo Remembered: Tejano Accounts and Perspectives Timothy H. Matovina Austin; University of Texas Press, 1995 (Accounts of Mexican-Texans who fought for independence or witnessed the events.)
The Alamo Reader - A Study in History Todd Hansen, Editor Mechanicsburg, PA; Stackpole Books, 2003 (THE quintessential Alamo research tool.)
DEFENDERS AND NON-COMBATANTS OF THE ALAMO:
Alamo Defenders Bill Groneman III Austin; Eakin Press, 1990 (Short biographies of all the known defenders, couriers and non-combatants.)
HISTORY OF THE SITE AS MISSION, FORTRESS AND SHRINE:
The Alamo: An Illustrated History George Nelson Uvalde, TX; Aldine Press, 1998 (with accurate color plates by researcher-author-illustrator George Nelson) ALAMO ARCHITECTURE:
The Illustrated Alamo 1836 - A Photographic Journey Mark Lemon Abilene, TX; State House Press, 2008 (Definitive update on the architectural condition of the Alamo at the time of the siege.)
NOVELIZATIONS:
The Gates of the Alamo Stephen Harrigan New York; Alfred A. Knopf, 2000 (Best -- and most accurate -- novel on the Alamo)
One Domingo Morning Ned Anthony Huthmacher New York; Vantage Press, 2004 (The Alamo story told from the perspective of Travis’ slave Joe.)
THE ALAMO LEGACY AND THE MOVIES:
Alamo Images: Changing Perceptions of a Texas Experience Susan Prendergast Schoelwer with Tom W. Glaser Dallas, DeGolyer Library and Southern Methodist University Press, 1985 (First assembly of Alamo art, movies and kitsch into published form)
The Alamo: A Cultural History Frank Thompson Dallas; Taylor Trade Publishing, 2001 (How the Alamo story and its image has been assimilated into the pop culture.)
Alamo Movies Frank Thompson East Berlin, PA; Old Mill Books, 1991 (Out of print.) (History and commentary on every movie made about the Alamo up to 1991)
John Wayne’s The Alamo: The Making of an Epic Film Donald Clark and Christopher Anderson Hillside, IL; Midwest Publishing, 1994 (Out of print.) (In-depth narrative of the 14-year development of Wayne’s The Alamo.)
The Alamo: The Illustrated Story of an Epic Film Frank Thompson New York; Newmarket Press, 2004 (Tie-in “making of” book for John Lee Hancock’s The Alamo.)
Alamo Village: How a Texas Cattleman Brought Hollywood to the Old West John Farkis Brighton, MI; Business Imaging Group PDQ, 2005 (Thorough treatise on and the construction of the movie set by John Wayne and rancher Happy Shahan.)
Not Thinkin’… Just Rememberin’… The Making of John Wayne’s The Alamo John Farkis Bear Manor Media, Publication aimed at Christmas, 2014. (An epic in itself, this extremely well researched book details John Wayne’s 14-year uphill battle to make the movie and explores all the stumbling blocks he encountered.)
POPULAR HISTORY:
The Alamo Story: From Early History to Current Conflicts J. R. Edmondson Plano, TX; Republic of Texas Press, 2000 (Fun and rambunctious history with many back-stories)
13: The Alamo Book of Days Glenn A. Effler, Mark H. Lemon and Gary L. Foreman Valparaiso, IN; Native Sun Productions, 2011 (Appealing and accurate presentation of siege and battle through text, illustrations and photographs.)
The Alamo and Beyond: A Collector’s Journey Phil Collins Buffalo Gap, Texas; State House Press, 2012. (Singer Phil Collins’ book about his life-long passion for the Alamo and his collection of primary Alamo artifacts. Illustrated by Alamo historian Gary Zaboly.)
Prepared by Richard L. Curilla. Updated October, 2014.
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Post by estebans on Oct 20, 2014 20:12:57 GMT -5
Alamo Book Treasures: I treasure my faded and crumbling paperbacks, "The Alamo, Thirteen Days to Glory" by Lon Tinkle and "The Alamo by John Myers Myers." But I give most credit to Landmark Books "Remember the Alamo" by Robert Penn Warren, which along with Disney and Fess Parker,kindled the Alamo enthusiast I remain today. Lou from Long Island It was the same pair for me, Lou: Disney and Robert Penn Warren. When we got to the Alamo, I left the book on the floorboard of our Rambler station wagon, taking out the tracing I'd made of the Alamo plat illustration so I could see where everything was without having to bring the book in. Shortly afterwards, of course, I was saying, "Huh?!?!" I try to remain optimistic that I'll live to see a better sense of the Alamo compound available to visitors. After all, I lived long enough to see a forensic analysis of something from the unforgettable ending of Warren's book: "Cattle pawed the bones, and later some skulls were picked up for souvenirs." I wonder if Robert Penn Warren actually ran across mention of John James Audubon buying Mexican soldiers' skulls near San Jacinto? Regardless, it was fascinating to hear and see what could be guessed about those soldiers and their final combat from the cranial evidence at this year's Alamo Symposium.
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Post by loucapitano on Oct 22, 2014 16:30:30 GMT -5
You make a good point Estebans. I used the R.M. Potter map for all my youthful clay Alamo reproductions. It wasn't until I saw the Lon Tinkle three dimensional sketch (although not to scale)that I first began to appreciate what the fortress looked like and how bravely futile it was to defend. I only visited the Alamo once in 2000, but even what little remains haunts my thoughts beyond what these books offered. By the way, the illustrations in the Warren's book are magnificent in their simplicity and drama. Lou from Long Island
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