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Post by sloanrodgers on Jun 27, 2007 1:55:39 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts El Red. Who's this Nieson fellow, Alamo? Black Ben Oh yea! I've heard of that Black Ben character.
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Post by elcolorado on Jun 27, 2007 11:47:47 GMT -5
Wolf....You do point out some interesting facts...information that I was unaware of...Thank You! But the question still remains - if Almonte was familiar with Travis and Bowie, why would Santa Anna task Almonte's cook to identify the bodies and not Almonte himself. Surely, Santa Anna would have had more confidence in his aid then in his aids cook. Now, I do think it's possible that Ben accompanied Santa Anna and Almonte when they toured the battle scene and Ben may have made some observations. But I remain skeptical that Santa Anna would have tasked him to identify Travis - Bowie - Crockett, when clearly there were other, and more qualified, people on hand.
Glenn
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Post by stuart on Jun 27, 2007 12:26:43 GMT -5
I agree that its as simple as that.
It wouldn't have been a quiet one to one with Joe/Ruiz/Ben (delete as required) accompanying a lone Santa Anna around the scenes of devastation while he gazed lovingly on the face of the foe.
There will have been a whole bunch of them; Ruiz and the Corporation, and Joe, on the one hand identifying various individuals; and on the other Santa Anna and his staff nodding in satisfaction as each one was pointed out to them. Ben was probably only tagging along at the back to provide coffee and nachos and it would only be natural for him to exaggerate his role in later years
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Post by Herb on Jun 27, 2007 12:29:18 GMT -5
I think Stuart, nailed it.
We all have a tendancy to exaggerate our roles, especially if it concerns something significant.
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Post by stuart on Jun 27, 2007 14:58:52 GMT -5
There is of course a further wrinkle to this...
On other threads we have been discussing the Ruiz account, and Potter's account with input from Ruiz, and other accountswhich might corroborate Ruiz if it wasn't for a suspicion that Ruiz might again be the source. However if it was indeed not Ruiz but Ruiz and a substantial part of the Corporation - as he relates in his account - which identified the bodies then a number of details may have been fairly common knowledge amongst the Tejano community rather than emanating from him as the sole source.
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