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Post by Allen Wiener on Dec 13, 2011 19:02:24 GMT -5
As I say, many unanswered (and perhaps unanswerable) questions surround this event.
Herb - Yes - I add my endorsement of Gregg's fine book; should be essential reading for the Texas Rev.
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Post by gtj222 on Dec 13, 2011 19:42:30 GMT -5
Yes, I agree and I have his fine book. I highly recommend it.
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Post by mjbrathwaite on Dec 13, 2011 20:55:25 GMT -5
I'm wondering if a post from this thread has been deleted: when I wrote mine earlier today it was in response to one immediately above it that said something to the effect that De La Pena concocted the execution part his memoir while held captive at San Jacinto and, not knowing what happened to him after the battle, I accepted it as factual. I still stand by my main point, which was that while Crockett may not have been one of those executed, De La Pena didn't say he was just on the strength of a rumour. It's just a guess, but maybe he heard it from Almonte or Dolson's informant.
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Post by Allen Wiener on Dec 13, 2011 23:57:58 GMT -5
Something of this kind may well be what happened. The Dolson and DLP descriptions of the executions are similar enough to have come from the same source.
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Post by loucapitano on Dec 17, 2011 14:33:37 GMT -5
Some of the earliest stories of the Alamo have Crockett facing execution with several other survivors literally minutes after Santa Anna's personal HQ entered the smoldering battle field. Having grown up with Disney, I always felt my hero died more dramatically. When I first read the de la Pena account, I thought it was reasonable and certainly could have been the primary source of the Crockett execution stories. Yet, I still can't shake off in my mind that one of the handfull of Texan survivors claimed to be Crockett in hopes his fame might spare his life, however briefly. I wouldn't say it was an "I'm Sparticus" moment, the the point is moot. Whether or not the person who claimed to be the American Naturalist (a la Pena) was Crockett, Santa Anna was not impressed and had them all cut down mercilessly. Quite frankly, I don't care if he died falling from the wall after stubbing his toe. He crossed the line (however figuratively) and remains among the Alamo heros. Happy Holidays!!!
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Post by Allen Wiener on Dec 17, 2011 21:52:40 GMT -5
Interesting thought, Lou; could be. And, of course, yours is the only really valid conclusion to this long-standing controversy.
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